This has bugged me for a while

[Diamondex]

How does the Airstrike work? I know how the smoke works, but the actual effect of satchels dropping has confused me for some time. It may seem like a foolish question, but how is it done?

[Pyro]

The bottle promotes to a projectile group of a bunch of satchel charges. They have a value high enough that they appear from the sky.

[Jon God]

The bottle promotes to a projectile group of a bunch of satchel charges. They have a value high enough that they appear from the sky.

A value of?

[Graydon]

What ever happened to looking at the bungie tags?

Try some numbers? 8? 10? 15? 40? 2?

Can't be that hard to experiment with a few incremental values to figure it out.... or mb even, you know, look at the tag, get the number from there?

[haravikk]

In fairness the satchel drop isn't included in Myth 2, so he'd have to go get the tags out of the unity plug-in.

There is however a comparable attack in the form of the 20 deceiver's lightning strike, which is an invisible attack that promotes to lightning about 10 world-units (effective*) in the air.

* I say effective because the value in projectile-groups seems to be less than a world-unit.

[devSin]

Yeah, not everybody can run TagEdit, so you have to extract from Unity first and then hope that the values are the same.

In TFL, the satchel bombs (10-15) are created at 50.0 to 54.0.

If you don't need something that comes from the air, you can also look at the myrkridian giant skull attack (it promotes from a single skull into a group of bombs).

There is however a comparable attack in the form of the 20 deceiver's lightning strike, which is an invisible attack that promotes to lightning about 10 world-units (effective*) in the air.

Yeah, and with the 1.4 collection, you get these ugly light-source shadow trails from the Deceiver to Soulblighter even though the lightning is shooting downward (grumble grumble).

* I say effective because the value in projectile-groups seems to be less than a world-unit.

Aren't these relative to the source (1.0 for this would be the height of the projectile when it promotes; for a monster, it would be it's own current maximum height; etc.) instead of constant?

[Baak]

Or you can look at Flare Dorfs -- a pluginized version of the ones from Hedgerow. Untag it and you'll get a much smaller bunch of tags (easier to follow).

[Pyro]

Yeah, not everybody can run TagEdit, so you have to extract from Unity first and then hope that the values are the same.

Use UnTag, everyone should be able to run that. The unity plugs are myth 2 plugs so they use myth 2 values. You can always look into other plugins that might have similar attacks.

The Myrk Giant attack won't do, because he was asking for the sats from the sky instead from the source of one projectile.

[Diamondex]

This question may seem stupid.

What is this value you're talking about?

[Pyro]

When you install the latest update and include the fear/loathing, it includes the mapmaking documents. Learn to use Fear.

[devSin]

What is this value you're talking about?

In the projectile group the airstrike bottle promotes to, the value is the position (in the vertical space) the satchel bombs are created (count specifies the range appearing, position specifies the random height, and appearance determines the chance of getting created).

So 50-54 picks a number between the two (inclusive, I believe), which is really, really high up in the air (99% of projectiles are created somewhere between 0.0 and 1.0, which is roughly the ground to the top of whatever the group is attached to).

[Deqlyn]

I think 90 or 120 is the highest start value you can go if I remember right from my landlside/meotoer storm in DDAT.

[Baak]

I think 90 or 120 is the highest start value you can go if I remember right from my landlside/meotoer storm in DDAT.

I recall encountering a 120-ish max in Uber Ghol Riot and other plugins I developed.

Could be that 127 is the actual max (as in the -128 to +127 range of a byte).

[Deqlyn]

I think your right cause I tried to 150 and if you go over it defaults to like 127. And I didnt use 127 cause it wasnt far enough away from 120.