Story Confusion

[Buck Mild]

If Connacht was the previous hero and became Balor, meaning the leveler switched sides, shouldn't Alric have failed to defeat Balor?

Or if Connacht was the Leveler for the light and there was no dark leveler, Balor still should have succeeded right?

It was also suggested that Alric may have broken the cycle when he killed Damas, but if anything shouldn't that have been the case when he defeated Balor?

Or are there two levelers every time? one for light and one for dark? and the one who succeeds becomes the next for the opposing side?

And if the cycle isn't actually broken, Alric should be the next Leveler, correct?

Sorry for this incredibly confusing post. Suggestion, answers, comments?

[Pyro]

Balor was the Leveler. He died when it was believed that he should have won. So maybe Alric did break the cycle then. From the Myth 2 epilogue:

Soulblighter was not The Leveler. He may have been if he had survived into the next millennium – but, in his attempt to force the cycle, he perished and almost certainly will suffer at the hands of those who set it in motion. It is even conceivable that because of his actions the cycle has been broken, but we cannot be sure — at least not for another nine hundred and forty years.

So maybe SB broke the cycle because he tried to force it and therefore messing up? I don't know.

[GodzFire]

Being a Myth lore scholar, let me help you with these questions.

If Connacht was the previous hero and became Balor, meaning the leveler switched sides, shouldn't Alric have failed to defeat Balor? Or if Connacht was the Leveler for the light and there was no dark leveler, Balor still should have succeeded right?

Connacht was the hero at the end of the Wind Age, who then started and ruled during the Wolf Age. Around 1462 AE Connacht left and was never seen (as Connacht) again. Many years later he returned (reborn if you will), as Balor, the new Leveler. Balor then was the Leveler for the "present day Myth" cycle of the Sword Age or New Age. TFL starts around 2480 AEish.

It was also suggested that Alric may have broken the cycle when he killed Damas, but if anything shouldn't that have been the case when he defeated Balor?

Not killed Damas, but his reborn evil form of Soulblighter. The way Myth 2 puts it, Soulblighter really didn't want to wait the 1000 years after Alric defeated Balor to rule, so he tried to force the cycle of him being the Leveler. Of course he failed and in trying to force it, possibly breaking the cycle set by Wyrd or Nyx or God or Chuck Norris.

Or are there two levelers every time? one for light and one for dark? and the one who succeeds becomes the next for the opposing side? And if the cycle isn't actually broken, Alric should be the next Leveler, correct?

Nope just one Leveler, and he's evil. Historically, the hero of one Age will return in the form of the Leveler in the next.

- Sorangath the Flayed was killed by Tireces to begin the Age Of Reason (Good)
- Tireces returned as Moagim The Leveler who was destroyed by a group of Avatara, but not before the Myrkridia were released to end the Age Of Reason and begin the Wind Age (Evil)
- The Myrkridia wrecked havoc on the world and almost hunted humans to extinction until a warrior named Connacht stood against them
- Connacht traps the Myrkridia in the tain and beheads Mjarin The Leveler, who was using a resurrected Moagim as a pawn. Connacht becomes Emperor, ending the Wind Age, and begins the Wolf Age (Good)
- After many years Connacht left and was never seen again. Many decades later he returned reborn, as Balor, The Leveler, ending the Wolf Age and beginning the Sword Age (Evil)
- Balor beats the crap out of everyone for about a thousand years until a group of Avatara named The Nine stand to oppose him
- Alric beheads Balor, and reforms the capital city with him as Emperor. You could call this the New Age (Good)

If the cycle isn't broken then yes, it appears as if poor Alric will be doomed to return in 1000 years or so as the new Leveler. Personally, I like to think ole SoulBlighter screwed things up and therefore broke the cycle, but that's just me.

[GodzFire]

And just as bonus info, here are the various ages:

- Golden Age (for Trow), Axe Age (for Humans)
- Age Of Reason
- Wind Age
- Wolf Age
- Sword Age / New Age

[Pyro]

Being a Myth lore scholar...

lol

- After many years Connacht left and was never seen again. Many decades later he returned reborn, as Balor, The Leveler, ending the Wolf Age and beginning the Sword Age (Evil)
- Balor beats the crap out of everyone for about a thousand years until a group of Avatara named The Nine stand to oppose him
- Alric beheads Balor, and reforms the capital city with him as Emperor. You could call this the New Age (Good)

Some of that is wrong. The new age is the Sword Age. Balor wasn't around for thousand years. We know that roughly or maybe exactly 300 years before the events in TFL, the Kithless joined Balor and became known as Myrmidons. About 50 before TFL, Muirthemne was sacked ending the Wolf Age around somewhere near that time. And M2 takes place 60 years after TFL.

One hundred ten years ago, during the Wolf Age, Muirthemne was sacked, burned and all but buried under a mountain of rock and sand by Balor and the Fallen Lords.

So during M2 you are about 110 years more or less into the Sword Age. By the end of M2 it is about 2541 AE.

[Deqlyn]

He also forgot to mention that Anakin Skywalker came back as the Leveler known as Darth Vader, so the cycle wasn't broken until Luke skywalker turned him back to the light and he died from wounds of protecting his son.

[vinylrake]

Next time you want to reveal major plot events, please tag the post with ***SPOILER***.

I mean seriously, now I can't play Myth III knowing that the 'hero' is Darth Vader.

thanks, thanks a whole lot.

[Deqlyn]

Sorry dude let me go back and edit this.


SPOILER Alert










Dumbeldor and Legolas die!

[Cobalt 7]

People take the plot of Myth 3 seriously? That's even worse than George Lucas's prequel films. I pretend it doesn't exist. You should too. Your lives would be better for it.

Now, to respond to the original post, the entire idea of Myth's story is a universe of cycles and clockwork portents. Light, and Dark. A duality. A tragic duality. However, Alric, having now seen this duality for what it is, a hopeless struggle, he conspired to "break the game", as it were. Instead of defending the West, and losing, as the cycle predicted, he gathered up all sorts of strange magical artifacts, took control of the remnants of the Legion, and set off North to face Balor, and kill him.

By killing Balor, the entire Cycle fell apart, and was essentially "broken". At least, for the time being. The armies fell apart, and what looked like a sure victory for the Dark, instead turned into a miraculous victory for the Light. Because the Dark victory never came to pass, one could theorize that the cycle was effectively broken. Id' say it would be going too far to call Alric a "Leveler", and that he was simply the right hero at the right time.

Now to answer the second part of your question....... SoulBlighter attempted to restart the cycle, as it were. He was trying to finish what Balor and the cycle started, with the Victory over the light.

However, what was unusual, and the game comments on this, is that Soul Blighter was not the leveler. The comet was not in the Eastern Sky, and it was not time for the cycle to reassert itself. Because he didn't wait, it appears that he's probably ruined the chance of the Dark ever rising again in serious strength. There are no Fallen Lords left to lead them, and no ancient evils to unleash. In essence, he blew his one shot to destroy the world, where if he had waited, who knows how weak the Light would have become, and how much stronger he would have been?

The lesson of this story? Unless you're trying to save the human race, DON'T FUCK WITH COSMIC CYCLES OF GOOD AND EVIL.

[Renwood]

Godzfire..... "Sorangath the Flayed was killed by Tireces"?

the only name given for the first leveler is...well "The leveler"

where do you get Sorangath from? some hidden text ooga and myself have never come across? sounds unlikely ~8^)

but myth is pretty complex and sneaky, so i would be interested to know the soruce for that name....IF there is one heh

-renwood

[Pyro]

The source of that is Myth 3's prologue. Not that I support the use of M3 as canon, but just to answer the question of his source.

[GodzFire]

Exactly right Pyro. That's where it came from.

Also here's an Apple article on it: http://www.apple.com/games/articles/200 ... ndex2.html