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Hey ladies...

there's a flying extra terrestrial in the store

Can we focus?

Graydon, do you think it's possible you could reply to a post without insulting someone? IN the previous post you claimed you knew "as fact" that I knew nothing about interfaces - which you most definitely do not KNOW as we've never had that conversation, AND you insulted Gizmo in that same post and here you have to toss in another slap.

WTH is your problem? And no, using 'smilies' doesn't negate an insult, and trying to explain why you 'justified' in your opinion about someone won't help either. If you have something constructive to add about how to do interfaces or how not to do them, say it - otherwise maybe just shut up and stop the flame baiting?

Ps. I'll do my best to follow my own advice too.

Scary how theres a strip across my avatar saying I'm online :O

vinylrake wrote:WTH is your problem? And no, using 'smilies' doesn't negate an insult, and trying to explain why you 'justified' in your opinion about someone won't help either. If you have something constructive to add about how to do interfaces or how not to do them, say it - otherwise maybe just shut up and stop the flame baiting?

My problem: I think you're an idiot who tries to involve himself in things he doesnt know wtf he';s talking about. No, we havent had the conversation, but if you _did_ know anything about interfaces you'd have realized gizmo's post does NOT include all that much information on 'how to do it', which you argued it did. This is where I derived the information you must not have a clue about interfaces and their design.

Justifying with smilies: In the case of calling Gizmo an asshole, I add a smily cause I think it's a well known fact that that is who Giz is. He'll admit it, go ask him. I'm sure his feelings were not hurt by me calling him an asshole, cause he also knows he fucking OWNS at what he does, so really people cant talk shit about him. I threw it in for just that.. a bit of humor, which is why I added the smily faces along with it. You're right though, sometimes I can't go without insulting someone.. It's usually cause they're making themselves vulnerable to insult by doing something stoooopid.

Adding something constructive: If you'd actually read my post you'd have noticed that I mentioned talking to Godzfire in person on the udogs hotline. I gave him the information and basic walkthrough of steps for what's required to make an interface, and I also told him to contact me at any point along the production if he's getting stuck with something. I did also say that I would not _do it for him_. I hope that doesn't make me a bad guy in your eyes.

I don't typically flame 'bait' as you say (I'd call it simply flaming) to anyone unless I really don't like what they're standing for. Often you're right.. it'd be better to just stfu.... but what the hell is the point in public forums if people can't voice their opinions right? If I think your opinion or statement is wrong and I feel I've got proof to back its wrongness up, I'll fucking say so. You go against my grain of opinion quite often, so I suppose you see the flames more often. Sucks for you I guess.

Don't worry, i'm not offended by anything Gray says, I'm really not that much of an asshole in this case though, and I'm actually a pretty reliable guy it's just that i've stated many times that I don't have time for myth projects right now since im busy graduating... and yes I'm not the nicest guy around, but that's just who I am, and if you can't take that...too bad...

anyway... I wont hand over the m3 port files I created...yet, I made Revan a promise (in some other forum thread) but so far I havent seen or heard anything yet, so stop attacking me...

as far as this interface stuff goes, I don't agree with Gray about me giving the bare minimum of information... if you know how to use amber, the information I gave should make sense... if you don't know how to use Amber you should focus on that before starting with a serious project like a full interface...

When I first first tried to port the m3 interface, I just used Amber and it didnt work well (interface flickering etc) so I asked a specific question on hotline to help me solve that problem, myrd responded with "you need this app im working on, heres a beta, its buggy, should be easy enough" and I spend time learning/using it...

The bottom line is that I don't like Godz approach to creating things for myth, 1 day he decides "i'm going to make an interface", and goes straight to the forum and expects a step by step guide... that's not how it's done, spend some time trying stuff and finding out what works best for you, because there really isnt such a thing as an optimal workflow for myth mapmaking. When you really can't get it to work, ask a specific question to solve a problem... and stop hating me because I won't share ready made files/techniques with you, it's not going to happen, I agree with vinylrake, I actually did answer your question and helped, it just wasn't the help you were going for (basically me just handing over the files)

But lets just picture what would happen If I'd write a tutorial on how to create a port of the M3 interface including all the steps, photoshop, indexing, extracting tags, amber, dialog editor etc etc, I'd just be doing all the work for him... I wouldn't do that even if I had the time... I pointed him in the right direction, the rest is up to him to spend time on it and do the work and I'm sure if he had a specific question plenty of people would answer it...

Stop expecting people to do work for you, get to it, experiment, learn, try and when you really can't take it anymore and are about to give up ask the right question, that's how all the people who made stuff for myth did it...

good luck

...Giz

Graydon wrote:if you _did_ know anything about interfaces you'd have realized gizmo's post does NOT include all that much information on 'how to do it', which you argued it did.

What I said was that he "gave you an overview of HOW to do it "

So... how about you go off and learn to read English and stop putting words in my mouth, and until you do you can just piss off, k?

Thanks.

You guys are touchy as hell.

For what it is worth, interface making IS just drag and drop. I mean, meticulous, pixel by pixel some time, but there really isn't that much to it. *I* figured it out. I mean. Come on!

I havent heard Vinyl say anything useful in regards to making the interfaces either.... Vinyl, maybe you should take some of your own advice and fuck off for a little while. You don't seem to actively make maps. Don't involve yourself with mapmakers. It's better that way.

Go rule over the dumb idiot ranked and MWC plays over on mnet with your almighty powerz. You'd be doing alot more good.

Im just saying unkind things to you. I hate you, you're an asshole and I'll rub it into your fucking face.

Quit telling me to go do something constructive or not do anything at all. I've told you a couple times already, I've already taken the time to 'step by step' guide Godz on what has to be done. How is that not helping? You just seem to try and involve yourself in things that arent in your realm man. And you make yourself look like an idiot in the process. Just step out of it. Answer shit in the General forum and the Private Testers forum. Otherwise stay away. You don't help people with mapmaking questions, don't reply here. It'll help everyone's sanity in the long run.

Reading your ridiculous replies, takes energy and motivation away from those that actually have the knowledge to help. I plead. Please bugger off.

Jeesus, can we separate you?


And Myth Community, can we go a week without some drama?

For what it's worth, Gray, I don't remember seeing VR saying you weren't helping. The only one saying something like that was Godzfire (and maybe you in later posts aftet that) about Gizmo not helping. It is like twice where you say stuff like that to VR when he never implied you were not helping.

Graydon, Is someone having a bad day? Do you need a hug?

*Gives Graydon a hug*

Now, can we all calm down with useless fighting, and get back to the topic.

Fighting isn't going to get us anywhere.

Please keep petty arguments and flames to PMs!

Myth Community with no drama would be boring.

Dull and not fun.

I 'SOMETIMES' enjoy reading long paragraph replys to pointless topics. (go to MWC thread for funnest)

anyways..

Godz, Drop it. and stop bugging me about the demo levels, no more gonna finish school year first.

Viny, let it go.

Gray, STFU

Giz, thx but no thx

DA & Jon. !!

GG

Back to work..