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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 4:28 am
by Bieithons
vinylrake wrote: Also, if you are copying and pasting something someone else wrote, make you sure you

a) get permission

and

b) credit the original site/author in any credits text in the readme or any other documentation
I will to make it.
But i dont believe it is necessary, because have nothing specificing about that dont can use the stuff of site or some similar like this.
It is avaliable for everbody.

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:42 am
by Death's Avatar
1) Many plugins come with an agreements that ask that you do ask for permission.

2) It's common community courtesy. It keeps the community friendly, etc. Not doing it will make people upset.

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:30 pm
by Bieithons
New picture of Characters of LotR for Myth 2.

Aragorn
Image

Specter
Image

GIMLI LOL
Image

Leader Ghost
Image

Merry
Image

Nazgul
Image

Orc
Image

Pippin
Image

Smeagol
Image

Theoden
Image

Troll Moria
Image

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 6:19 pm
by The Elfoid
Death's Avatar wrote:1) Many plugins come with an agreements that ask that you do ask for permission.

2) It's common community courtesy. It keeps the community friendly, etc. Not doing it will make people upset.
I have explained this to him at least twice. He's said 'ok' but clearly not got the message.

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 10:06 am
by Bieithons
The Elfoid wrote:
Death's Avatar wrote:1) Many plugins come with an agreements that ask that you do ask for permission.

2) It's common community courtesy. It keeps the community friendly, etc. Not doing it will make people upset.
I have explained this to him at least twice. He's said 'ok' but clearly not got the message.
I did it about the flavors for the units, I am waiting reply (is it other site)

http://books.dreambook.com/rogue30/onering.html

About the units, 80% of the units of plug is avaliable in someone website for download (mythaddicts, udogs etc) It no need permission if the stuff is available for download and agreed by the author.

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:00 am
by Death's Avatar
Available for Download, but not always use in your own work. Ask. Its courtesy.

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:45 am
by Bieithons
Death's Avatar wrote:Available for Download, but not always use in your own work. Ask. Its courtesy.
No really, because it i said "80% units", must of map makers that i extract the unit of plug no play myth actually, is hard may permission for somebody that is hardest the contact or i dont have it, if i had it my for all, the project stop complety or i finish it in 10 years.

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:07 pm
by The Elfoid
Also you need to CREDIT PEOPLE in readmes usually. I believe the sites they were on probably have that written somewhere.

Its the 'thanks to _____ for letting me steal his ________ unit' that is more important than asking for permission in most cases.

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:23 pm
by Bieithons
The Elfoid wrote:Also you need to CREDIT PEOPLE in readmes usually. I believe the sites they were on probably have that written somewhere.

Its the 'thanks to _____ for letting me steal his ________ unit' that is more important than asking for permission in most cases.
I know about it i will make it in the finish.
making most thing yet.
i will put the references plugs the Map Maker or the Team of Map Maker
and all that help me
but still much early for this.

lotr copyrights...

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:58 pm
by Point
i imagine using anything from the movies will be a problem... the lotr game and the movies probably have a legal department for just such a thing.. so i would at least run a photo shop filter over the images...

as for units... creiditing the right people is important... as for permision most would love to see thier stuff put to good use the only potential problem I see is the 7th god stuff be sure you get some kinda ok to use from the reminents of creation or someone else that has permision to use them.


should be a fun project... gl. and ill let u know when the latest versions of the aom units get uploaded..

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 7:40 pm
by vinylrake
I think that as long as you TRY to contact the authors of the items you are using AND GIVE THEM CREDIT for what they made you have made a reasonable effort.

Also, I know the sentence isn't complete, but in the flavor text for the "King Sorcerer" the sentence "The Ring gave to be able to it, in exchange for the soul, with it's sword cursed for the ring, enlisted the savages trolls in favor..." doesn't really make any sense. I have a rough idea what it means because I know what the nazgul are, but from that sentence alone I wouldn't be able to tell at all.

Maybe something got chopped out when you were cutting and pasting the text?

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:31 pm
by Bieithons
vinylrake wrote:I think that as long as you TRY to contact the authors of the items you are using AND GIVE THEM CREDIT for what they made you have made a reasonable effort.

Also, I know the sentence isn't complete, but in the flavor text for the "King Sorcerer" the sentence "The Ring gave to be able to it, in exchange for the soul, with it's sword cursed for the ring, enlisted the savages trolls in favor..." doesn't really make any sense. I have a rough idea what it means because I know what the nazgul are, but from that sentence alone I wouldn't be able to tell at all.

Maybe something got chopped out when you were cutting and pasting the text?
I agree the King Sorcerer's flavors dont make sense,
i dont know how i translate it for English for that make any sense, but i can do it in portugueses and spanish languages, if somebody know it.
can help me translate it?

Escravo do anel, são seres quase imortais que nunca comem ou dormem. O anel deu-lhes poderes sobrenaturais em troca de sua alma. Com sua espada almadiçoada converteu os selvagens trolls à favor de Sauron.

Esclavo del anillo, son seres casi inmortales que nunca comen o duermen. El anillo os dio poderes supernatural en cambio de su alma. Con su lamina almadizoada convirtió los salvajes trolls a favor de Sauron.

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:05 pm
by The Elfoid
i imagine using anything from the movies will be a problem... the lotr game and the movies probably have a legal department for just such a thing.. so i would at least run a photo shop filter over the images...

as for units... creiditing the right people is important... as for permision most would love to see thier stuff put to good use the only potential problem I see is the 7th god stuff be sure you get some kinda ok to use from the reminents of creation or someone else that has permision to use them.
The TSG stuff is on MythAddicts. As long as people are credited or something you can use them...I don't know details TZ has some deal with Clem or something.

I can't see Newline Cinema caring. Fans did a free LOTR mod for Rome: Total War, find out what they did I guess :\

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:16 pm
by TarousZars
Its not a complicated deal. Before Clem went AWOL I asked if I could host his stuff free for people to use in any myth related projects. He said sure as long as they give credit to Creation.

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:58 am
by Bieithons
Yes the units of TSG is very nice.
Recenty i made a map about unit of 2 greats camp solo in combat multiplayer. it is in the playmyth in list of recent maps.

It is TSG VS Chimera Combat.

The TSG Vs Chimera Combat is a plug of units of Chimera tag vs TSG tag in the maps gimble, desert, float, Creep and others, in combats multiplayer in 2 team maps or FFA.

Tarous help me much putting avaliable somes units of TSG in the mythaddicts

Thx Tarous.