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You mean pm.net or m.net couse Im lost a bit ?

Tireces wrote:You mean pm.net or m.net couse Im lost a bit ?

Playmyth.net

Hmmm It would give something like 400 acount yearly rather than 3000.
Proly decay of pm.net started in march or even sooner - I remember that webiste was donw for few days many times, some ppl complained on forums that they already wait 2-3 weeks for accounts activation - some said they that wait over month already and left etc. - yea that could give 39 in march...
Ill post more when Ill found ordermates stats.

cheers

65 in 02/2007
59 in 01/2007
52 in 12/2006

Hopefully some asshat script kiddie won't mess up the site this time.

Amadeus wrote:Trying to move everyone would cause loss of dedicated players and would be dramatically worse than getting those few players you'd gain from having registration, players that may quit within weeks.

At least, thats my opinion.

If you could augment the increase of new players, that would be great. It hasn't happened yet though.

If they are so "dedicated" then they must know about Mnet and would switch if PMnet ever died or if many people were to switch to Mnet. I have met some new players that never knew about PMnet over at Mnet, the few times I have gone. Sure some of them might quit within weeks but the truth is, there is no sure way of knowing if they will or not. Look at PMnet users... when did some of the more active ones join? There are a lot of active players that were never even on Bnet, so just imagine how many potential Mythers could still come in to this dying community. Anyone that is lost in a possible switch to Mnet is not dedicated or is plain ignorant for not knowing by now about Mnet (or how to switch to Mnet). The only reason the people who have played on Mnet recently don't stop playing on PMnet and just stay on Mnet is that they would do the same thing the PMnet-only players are doing... hurting the potential growth of the Myth community. Even if the growth was a handful of players it would be worth it for such a small group of players.

No one would be having this discussion if PMnet had registration open for new players. The rest of the site is not needed... sure it would be better to have the rest of the site which is nice to have, but registration is the only important part. I'm sure some of these PMnet-only players would be saying something different if they forgot their accounts passwords.

vinylrake wrote:

Tireces wrote:Seems logical to expect less and less newcomers every year - but I observed pm.net stats since 2004 and suprisingly flow of new account seemed to be quite constant for most of time - I could search some of my archive cd's and check for ID's and account creation dates of The Nine's clan members. I would shot that it was something like +/- 3000 account in 2006. Ill look for cd and post how close I was.

This is of course unofficial, but someone told me they heard that over 400 people have registered on mariusnet since it went back up a few months ago and a few more people register every day.

Not astounding numbers, and I am sure lots of those are PM players making contingency plans, but for a server that people aren't going to switch to, that's not bad. Other than mwc I wouldn't have guessed there were even 400 active mythers on playmyth at all often.

This is correct.

I'd estimate we recieve 5 new account registrations per day for the last few weeks which is pretty respectable.

As for losing players in the transition. That is of course inevitable, but a small price to pay in my opinion. What's more, there are obvious ways to mitigate this lose. For example, a link on the website homepage to mnet, a mention of mnet in the bluebar at pmnet, and a mass mail out to the email accounts people registered with. That would catch the vast majority.

Of course that would require cooperation on Blades' behalf and we all know he doesn't have a great history in that respect.

Ah that sounds great, cool that ppl decided to move their asses and spent few minutes to create an account

Myth Forums Stats will gonna be updated anytime soon ?

As for getting people to come to mnet, maby we could advertise the it on the pmnet server. This would probly not get people to move, but at least they would know about it if pmnet ever went down.

Pyro's post is a lot of what I've been saying. It's really quite elementary to mention the uber dedicated gang of oldschool Mythers on PMnet, then in the very same breath say how the inconvenience of using a different server will mean losing them forever.

It takes approximately three clicks to switch to Marius. Three. Think, people.

Anthson wrote:Pyro's post is a lot of what I've been saying. It's really quite elementary to mention the uber dedicated gang of oldschool Mythers on PMnet, then in the very same breath say how the inconvenience of using a different server will mean losing them forever.

It takes approximately three clicks to switch to Marius. Three. Think, people.

That's something I've found pretty funny for a while now when the topic comes up a Myth forum - that allegedly 'uber committed' group of people who play Myth on PM who won't go to the 'effort' of setting up an account on marius. One has to wonder just how 'committed' these people really are. I'd vote for 'People who are very stuck in old habits so will keep playing Myth as long as it's on PM because that's what they've been doing for the past 5 years, but are too lazy to make any effort to Play Myth', but not for 'Uber committed Myth Players'.

The original creators of Mariusnet were 'uber committed myth players' - I mean they wanted to play the game so bad they committed to creating their own myth game server FROM SCRATCH. Now THAT's commitment.

I honestly think a blue bar on PlayMyth is a dream. I think Blades has a lot of emotional stake in PlayMyth. If I were him I know I'd have a very hard time sending people the other way. Especially if I had every intention of fixing PlayMyth.

Besides. The blue bar isn't the problem. I have a hard time believing that most people don't know about mnet. Everyone on MWC knows about mnet. Well guess what, those are your "Dedicated Mythers". And if someone they play with doesn't know about Mnet, if they decide to move they will tell their friends.

The problem is they like PlayMyth better, and they don't care about newbies. Anyone who cares about newbies IMO, is preaching mnet. Sadly we are the minority.

I think the best thing we can all do is do as Frumious said in another thread. Login to Mnet first. Stay there for a while and try to let a crowd gather. And i'd suggest that if you get a small crew on playmyth then ask them to switch for that nights gaming session.

The fact that mnet is always emply and pmnet is always full, is subjective not objective. People think that they can always find a game on pmnet, so they go to pmnet for a game. When they get there they find pmnet full of people like them. The same thing happens for mnet. People think that there will not be games, so they dont go, then when a new person goes, they see the server empty and leave.

That is the reason why a marius night draws so many people. They assume that there will be people, so they show up.

Arthim wrote:The fact that mnet is always emply and pmnet is always full, is subjective not objective. People think that they can always find a game on pmnet, so they go to pmnet for a game. When they get there they find pmnet full of people like them.

This is just silly. There are LOTS of times I log onto pmnet and there are a dozen players or less. That hardly qualifies as 'full'. As for Mnet being "always empty" that too is silly. On AVERAGE pmnet is going to have more players than mnet, but that is gradually changing, and there have been a couple of times when I've seen more people on mnet than on pmnet. Only a couple, but 3 months ago I doubt I would have been able to say that.

well I was happy to play some games with some new mythers on mnet the other day... yes real life myth newbies... for the future of the game this switch needs to happen... encourage everyone to move to marius and hopefully mariusnet will polish over time to have the same feel.....


as for the blue bar... it says august first this time... though no year specified... its been months and I know more than most how life can intervine and prevent work on such hobbies though really just the fact that he wont reference mnet shows that its more personal than about the game and that doesnt bode well for the future... so encourage the improvement of mnet Mariusnet Magmanet Mythnet MMM...... let PMs be the back up...

vinylrake wrote:

Arthim wrote:The fact that mnet is always emply and pmnet is always full, is subjective not objective. People think that they can always find a game on pmnet, so they go to pmnet for a game. When they get there they find pmnet full of people like them.

This is just silly. There are LOTS of times I log onto pmnet and there are a dozen players or less. That hardly qualifies as 'full'. As for Mnet being "always empty" that too is silly. On AVERAGE pmnet is going to have more players than mnet, but that is gradually changing, and there have been a couple of times when I've seen more people on mnet than on pmnet. Only a couple, but 3 months ago I doubt I would have been able to say that.

You missed the point VR. I exagerated, but that is what a lot of people think. The purpose of that post was to state that the belife that there will be few people on mariusnet causes there to be few people on mariusnet.