Burnt DVDs = bunk? - What the, I/O error
Talk about anything here.
- William Wallet
- Posts: 1494
- Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:40 am
- Location: Perth Australia
- Contact:
Post by William Wallet »
Hiya
to cut a long story short, if I've used 2 or 3 DVDs from a batch of 25 and they act funny (if I go too many folders deep they slow right down and give me jip if I try to copy from them) is there any way I can get at the stuff on these?
Mac OS9 barely reads them at all, but OSX at least acknowledges that there's stuff in there - I'm just not allowed to use it, it seems. I get fed I/O errors and long waiting times.
Is my stuff lost? I was kind of... writing a story (not with David) and I think I may have just consigned it to a fate worse than DVD.
to cut a long story short, if I've used 2 or 3 DVDs from a batch of 25 and they act funny (if I go too many folders deep they slow right down and give me jip if I try to copy from them) is there any way I can get at the stuff on these?
Mac OS9 barely reads them at all, but OSX at least acknowledges that there's stuff in there - I'm just not allowed to use it, it seems. I get fed I/O errors and long waiting times.
Is my stuff lost? I was kind of... writing a story (not with David) and I think I may have just consigned it to a fate worse than DVD.
Okay I got the models but now I'm too dumb to do anything with 'em
One thing that might help is making an image of the DVD and accessing the image from your hard drive. Sometimes the image making program can read past file system errors because its just reading bits and not traversing a directory. I've been successful doing this with a CD recently, getting the data off.William Wallet wrote:Is my stuff lost? I was kind of... writing a story (not with David) and I think I may have just consigned it to a fate worse than DVD.
- William Wallet
- Posts: 1494
- Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:40 am
- Location: Perth Australia
- Contact:
Post by William Wallet »
Aye. I'll give it a go, thanks cap!
Okay I got the models but now I'm too dumb to do anything with 'em
Burnt anything is bunk. Only pressed media here!
~J
~J
Failure: when your best just isn't good enough.
- William Wallet
- Posts: 1494
- Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:40 am
- Location: Perth Australia
- Contact:
Post by William Wallet »
The day we go back to vinyl, I'll be a happy man.
Actually I got to thinking the other day - if a vinyl record can store sound information, is it too much of a stretch for it to store visual stuff? Maybe you'd need a far wider disc, and probably it would have to spin at a much faster rate to accomodate the rapid feeding in of complex video information.... but I still reckon DVDs should be thrown out the window in favour of the more advanced kickarse methods of the past.
I mean if vinyl records *sound* better than CD's (or so they say) then surely a vinyl movie would *look* better! Let's get this shit happening!
Actually I got to thinking the other day - if a vinyl record can store sound information, is it too much of a stretch for it to store visual stuff? Maybe you'd need a far wider disc, and probably it would have to spin at a much faster rate to accomodate the rapid feeding in of complex video information.... but I still reckon DVDs should be thrown out the window in favour of the more advanced kickarse methods of the past.
I mean if vinyl records *sound* better than CD's (or so they say) then surely a vinyl movie would *look* better! Let's get this shit happening!
Okay I got the models but now I'm too dumb to do anything with 'em
A vinyl record can definitely store visual information, because you can store visual information as sound information (with a proper translator, of course). I can think of no reason why it would be better, however, and it would be size-prohibitive (large amounts of vinyl surface area to store meaningful lengths of video).
There are other issues with it, like transfer rates, but let's just leave it as "it's impractical".
~J
There are other issues with it, like transfer rates, but let's just leave it as "it's impractical".
~J
Failure: when your best just isn't good enough.
-
- Site Admin
- Posts: 1023
- Joined: Mon May 24, 2004 8:59 pm
Post by Death's Avatar »
People just say vinyl sounds better because you can't get Zeppelin on iTunes.
- William Wallet
- Posts: 1494
- Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:40 am
- Location: Perth Australia
- Contact:
Post by William Wallet »
It'd be prohibitive of course... just some basic math in my head indicates one freakin' huge disc spinning at some high speeds.
Still. There's always laserdisc.
Still. There's always laserdisc.
Okay I got the models but now I'm too dumb to do anything with 'em
Enough rambling! So what's the outcome?William Wallet wrote:Aye. I'll give it a go, thanks cap!
- William Wallet
- Posts: 1494
- Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:40 am
- Location: Perth Australia
- Contact:
Post by William Wallet »
Not sure. Haven't had time to sit down and make a disk image yet. I'll leave it running as I sleep to-night.
Okay I got the models but now I'm too dumb to do anything with 'em
A couple of obvious problems with storing digital info on vinyl would be
a) Inconvenient. It's not practical($ or sizewise) for personal use to have a record pressing machine in your house.
b) Everytime a record is played/read the needle scrapes at the vinyl - with audio you end up with hiss and crackle, with digital data you would lose bits making the file unreadable.
If you meant that we should use an optical reading technology (laser - CD/DVD) and just change the storage medium itself from CD/DVD to vinyl - now THAT's an interesting idea - though of course you have the same issues around storing the data in a small enough footprint to be practical. ["Here's my 600 record collection of my last hard drive backup"]
a) Inconvenient. It's not practical($ or sizewise) for personal use to have a record pressing machine in your house.
b) Everytime a record is played/read the needle scrapes at the vinyl - with audio you end up with hiss and crackle, with digital data you would lose bits making the file unreadable.
If you meant that we should use an optical reading technology (laser - CD/DVD) and just change the storage medium itself from CD/DVD to vinyl - now THAT's an interesting idea - though of course you have the same issues around storing the data in a small enough footprint to be practical. ["Here's my 600 record collection of my last hard drive backup"]
Lots of Myth stuff at http://mythgraveyard.org.
Sometimes I put hard to find stuff in my my Udogs folder.
Sometimes I put hard to find stuff in my my Udogs folder.
- William Wallet
- Posts: 1494
- Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:40 am
- Location: Perth Australia
- Contact:
Post by William Wallet »
Heheh there's a thought. You could always use it as a coffee table after it's effective life as a video storage unit is over.
Okay I got the models but now I'm too dumb to do anything with 'em
- William Wallet
- Posts: 1494
- Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:40 am
- Location: Perth Australia
- Contact:
Post by William Wallet »
Hey uh, whoever it was who suggested I make an image:
It didn't work it wouldn't finish writing the dmg for some reason. So what's the deal, is my shit lost forever? That seems ludicrous to me... if it was fucked, why didn't it tell me during verification???
It didn't work it wouldn't finish writing the dmg for some reason. So what's the deal, is my shit lost forever? That seems ludicrous to me... if it was fucked, why didn't it tell me during verification???
Okay I got the models but now I'm too dumb to do anything with 'em